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Peter Frank

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:35 pm
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Hi,

I have an nVidia GeForce 8600M GS in my laptop. For HDDs and CPUs,
there are utilities that allow their temperatures to be displayed in
the Windows taskbar. Is there such a utility for nVidia GeForce
graphics cards? It should use little resources if possible. I already
installed nTune but this is not what I am looking for. It can't
display the temperature in the taskbar and it uses quite a lot of
resources.

Regards,
Peter

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Phil Weldon

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:35 pm
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'Peter Frank' wrote:
| I have an nVidia GeForce 8600M GS in my laptop. For HDDs and CPUs,
| there are utilities that allow their temperatures to be displayed in
| the Windows taskbar. Is there such a utility for nVidia GeForce
| graphics cards? It should use little resources if possible. I already
| installed nTune but this is not what I am looking for. It can't
| display the temperature in the taskbar and it uses quite a lot of
| resources.
_____

ATITool works with my nVidia 8600M GT in a Dell 1520 laptop. It displays
the GPU temperature in the taskbar. You can use it to determine if the
three speed levels (in Vista, at least) for the card (low power 2D 170/100
MHz, low power 3D 275/200 MHz, high power 3D 475/400 MHz) are working
correctly. I have used ATITool to overclock this 8600M GT to 550/475 MHz
without problems. (See the thread started by 'Sebastian A. Potthoff'
10OCT2007 in this newsgroup)

In Vista you must run ATITool as an administrator.

Phil Weldon

"Peter Frank" wrote in message

| Hi,
|
| I have an nVidia GeForce 8600M GS in my laptop. For HDDs and CPUs,
| there are utilities that allow their temperatures to be displayed in
| the Windows taskbar. Is there such a utility for nVidia GeForce
| graphics cards? It should use little resources if possible. I already
| installed nTune but this is not what I am looking for. It can't
| display the temperature in the taskbar and it uses quite a lot of
| resources.
|
| Regards,
| Peter

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Peter Frank

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:11 pm
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"Phil Weldon" wrote:

>'Peter Frank' wrote:
>| I have an nVidia GeForce 8600M GS in my laptop. For HDDs and CPUs,
>| there are utilities that allow their temperatures to be displayed in
>| the Windows taskbar. Is there such a utility for nVidia GeForce
>| graphics cards? It should use little resources if possible. I already
>| installed nTune but this is not what I am looking for. It can't
>| display the temperature in the taskbar and it uses quite a lot of
>| resources.
>_____
>
>ATITool works with my nVidia 8600M GT in a Dell 1520 laptop. It displays
>the GPU temperature in the taskbar. You can use it to determine if the
>three speed levels (in Vista, at least) for the card (low power 2D 170/100
>MHz, low power 3D 275/200 MHz, high power 3D 475/400 MHz) are working
>correctly. I have used ATITool to overclock this 8600M GT to 550/475 MHz
>without problems. (See the thread started by 'Sebastian A. Potthoff'
>10OCT2007 in this newsgroup)

Perfect. Just what I was looking for. And works with my nVidia
graphics card, too. Thanks for the tip.


Peter
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Peter Frank

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:18 pm
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"Phil Weldon" wrote:

>'Peter Frank' wrote:
>| I have an nVidia GeForce 8600M GS in my laptop. For HDDs and CPUs,
>| there are utilities that allow their temperatures to be displayed in
>| the Windows taskbar. Is there such a utility for nVidia GeForce
>| graphics cards? It should use little resources if possible. I already
>| installed nTune but this is not what I am looking for. It can't
>| display the temperature in the taskbar and it uses quite a lot of
>| resources.
>_____
>
>ATITool works with my nVidia 8600M GT in a Dell 1520 laptop. It displays
>the GPU temperature in the taskbar. You can use it to determine if the
>three speed levels (in Vista, at least) for the card (low power 2D 170/100
>MHz, low power 3D 275/200 MHz, high power 3D 475/400 MHz) are working
>correctly.

I still have Windows XP Professional SP2 installed on my laptop. When
I checked the core and memory clocks with the ATITool it always shows
500 MHz for the core and 700 MHz for the memory. Is anything wrong
with my graphics card or do I just have the wrong settings?

Peter
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:18 pm
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'Peter Frank' wrote:
| I still have Windows XP Professional SP2 installed on my laptop. When
| I checked the core and memory clocks with the ATITool it always shows
| 500 MHz for the core and 700 MHz for the memory. Is anything wrong
| with my graphics card or do I just have the wrong settings?
_____

I do not think there ARE any settings you can make to affect this function.

The readings ATITool report for your nVidia 8600M GT on a Windows XP laptop
are higher than the report I get with my Dell 5120 with an nVidia 8600M GT
and Windows Vista Home Premium. The memory speed ATITool reports for you
seems too high to be possible (a 50% overclock on the stock 400 MHz.) My
guess is that
either
1. I have a different version of ATITool, a version which does work
or
2. the ATITool does not work with Windows XP
or
3. your laptop does not implement "speed step" changes for
different graphics demands
or
4. some combination of the above.

There seem to be no user setting at all for the "speed step" GPU/Graphics
Memory frequency changes (and, I suppose, for any GPU and Graphics Memory
voltage changes) on my system in the BIOS, the Dell system setup, or Windows
Vista. It just happens automatically whether or not the system is on AC or
battery power, and no matter what power settings I use. Automatic
functioning seems to have no drawbacks because there is plenty of hysteresis
to prevent the speeds from bobbing up and down no matter what mix of
programs and/or games I run.

Phil Weldon

"Peter Frank" wrote in message

| "Phil Weldon" wrote:
|
| >'Peter Frank' wrote:
| >| I have an nVidia GeForce 8600M GS in my laptop. For HDDs and CPUs,
| >| there are utilities that allow their temperatures to be displayed in
| >| the Windows taskbar. Is there such a utility for nVidia GeForce
| >| graphics cards? It should use little resources if possible. I already
| >| installed nTune but this is not what I am looking for. It can't
| >| display the temperature in the taskbar and it uses quite a lot of
| >| resources.
| >_____
| >
| >ATITool works with my nVidia 8600M GT in a Dell 1520 laptop. It displays
| >the GPU temperature in the taskbar. You can use it to determine if the
| >three speed levels (in Vista, at least) for the card (low power 2D
170/100
| >MHz, low power 3D 275/200 MHz, high power 3D 475/400 MHz) are working
| >correctly.
|
| I still have Windows XP Professional SP2 installed on my laptop. When
| I checked the core and memory clocks with the ATITool it always shows
| 500 MHz for the core and 700 MHz for the memory. Is anything wrong
| with my graphics card or do I just have the wrong settings?
|
| Peter
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:34 pm
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"Phil Weldon" wrote:

>'Peter Frank' wrote:
>| I have an nVidia GeForce 8600M GS in my laptop. For HDDs and CPUs,
>| there are utilities that allow their temperatures to be displayed in
>| the Windows taskbar. Is there such a utility for nVidia GeForce
>| graphics cards? It should use little resources if possible. I already
>| installed nTune but this is not what I am looking for. It can't
>| display the temperature in the taskbar and it uses quite a lot of
>| resources.
>_____
>
>ATITool works with my nVidia 8600M GT in a Dell 1520 laptop. It displays
>the GPU temperature in the taskbar.

Since you have almost the same graphics card as I do:
Can you please tell me what your GPU temperature is when your gaphics
card is idle and what your GPU temperature is when your graphics card
is being stressed?

Mine idles around 55-59 C (131-138 F). Isn't that a bit high?
On the other hand, running the 3D View from the ATITool has almost no
effect on the temperature. Is there any other way to stress-test my
graphics card?

Peter
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:34 pm
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'Peter Frank' wrote:
| Since you have almost the same graphics card as I do:
| Can you please tell me what your GPU temperature is when your gaphics
| card is idle and what your GPU temperature is when your graphics card
| is being stressed?
|
| Mine idles around 55-59 C (131-138 F). Isn't that a bit high?
| On the other hand, running the 3D View from the ATITool has almost no
| effect on the temperature. Is there any other way to stress-test my
| graphics card?
_____

My nVidia 8600M GT at idle and low power 2D (170 MHz GPU, 100 MHz Graphics
Memory) is reported by ATITool version 0.27 to have a temperature of 42 C
(108 F) one minute after the system has been turned on (room ambient
temperature ~ 21 C (70 F). Five minutes later, system idle, low power 2D
(170 MHz/100 MHz) the GPU temperature is reported as 49 C (120F).

The 'Monitor' button on the ATITool control panel will set up a temperature
(and perhaps frequency) log. You could start the log and then run a game or
game demo that uses 3D acceleration or run 3DMark06. Then check the log.

I am under the impression that you and I have identical graphics cards, the
8600M GT produced by nVidia that plugs in to a PCI-e socket.

I have not check GPU temperatures when the graphics system is under heavy
stress yet. I'll post results from that test. For now, it is Halloween and
witches are knocking at my door.

Phil Weldon

"Peter Frank" wrote in message

| "Phil Weldon" wrote:
|
| >'Peter Frank' wrote:
| >| I have an nVidia GeForce 8600M GS in my laptop. For HDDs and CPUs,
| >| there are utilities that allow their temperatures to be displayed in
| >| the Windows taskbar. Is there such a utility for nVidia GeForce
| >| graphics cards? It should use little resources if possible. I already
| >| installed nTune but this is not what I am looking for. It can't
| >| display the temperature in the taskbar and it uses quite a lot of
| >| resources.
| >_____
| >
| >ATITool works with my nVidia 8600M GT in a Dell 1520 laptop. It displays
| >the GPU temperature in the taskbar.
|
| Since you have almost the same graphics card as I do:
| Can you please tell me what your GPU temperature is when your gaphics
| card is idle and what your GPU temperature is when your graphics card
| is being stressed?
|
| Mine idles around 55-59 C (131-138 F). Isn't that a bit high?
| On the other hand, running the 3D View from the ATITool has almost no
| effect on the temperature. Is there any other way to stress-test my
| graphics card?
|
| Peter
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:02 am
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"Phil Weldon" wrote:

>'Peter Frank' wrote:
>| I still have Windows XP Professional SP2 installed on my laptop. When
>| I checked the core and memory clocks with the ATITool it always shows
>| 500 MHz for the core and 700 MHz for the memory. Is anything wrong
>| with my graphics card or do I just have the wrong settings?
>_____
>
>I do not think there ARE any settings you can make to affect this function.
>
>The readings ATITool report for your nVidia 8600M GT on a Windows XP laptop
>are higher than the report I get with my Dell 5120 with an nVidia 8600M GT
>and Windows Vista Home Premium. The memory speed ATITool reports for you
>seems too high to be possible (a 50% overclock on the stock 400 MHz.)

I think the memory clock is correct. I have an nVidia 8600M GS and I
think it is a little bit different from the nVidia 8600M GT as far as
the core and memory clock is concerned.

Peter
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:59 pm
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Previously Peter Frank wrote:
> Hi,

> I have an nVidia GeForce 8600M GS in my laptop. For HDDs and CPUs,
> there are utilities that allow their temperatures to be displayed in
> the Windows taskbar. Is there such a utility for nVidia GeForce
> graphics cards? It should use little resources if possible. I already
> installed nTune but this is not what I am looking for. It can't
> display the temperature in the taskbar and it uses quite a lot of
> resources.

The current version of speedfan can report GeForce temperatures.

Arno
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:59 pm
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'Peter Frank' wrote:
| I think the memory clock is correct. I have an nVidia 8600M GS and I
| think it is a little bit different from the nVidia 8600M GT as far as
| the core and memory clock is concerned.
_____

Yes, now I see the nVidia specifications for your 8600M GS shows a much
higher GPU clock speed but only half as many stream processors (16 vs. 32.)
But those same specifications show a 700 MHz graphics memory clock speed vs.
the 400 MHz that is the highest graphics memory setting for my 8600M GT in
3D high power mode as shown by ATITool 0.27.

I have not yet run 3DMark06 while logging GPU temperatures with ATITool
0.27. I did see on the ATITool website that version 0.27 is beta, and that
the 0.24, while not beta, does not work in Windows Vista.

Phil Weldon

"Peter Frank" wrote in message

| "Phil Weldon" wrote:
|
| >'Peter Frank' wrote:
| >| I still have Windows XP Professional SP2 installed on my laptop. When
| >| I checked the core and memory clocks with the ATITool it always shows
| >| 500 MHz for the core and 700 MHz for the memory. Is anything wrong
| >| with my graphics card or do I just have the wrong settings?
| >_____
| >
| >I do not think there ARE any settings you can make to affect this
function.
| >
| >The readings ATITool report for your nVidia 8600M GT on a Windows XP
laptop
| >are higher than the report I get with my Dell 5120 with an nVidia 8600M
GT
| >and Windows Vista Home Premium. The memory speed ATITool reports for you
| >seems too high to be possible (a 50% overclock on the stock 400 MHz.)
|
| I think the memory clock is correct. I have an nVidia 8600M GS and I
| think it is a little bit different from the nVidia 8600M GT as far as
| the core and memory clock is concerned.
|
| Peter
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:26 pm
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"Peter Frank" wrote in message

> "Phil Weldon" wrote:
>
>>'Peter Frank' wrote:
>>| I have an nVidia GeForce 8600M GS in my laptop. For HDDs and CPUs,
>>| there are utilities that allow their temperatures to be displayed in
>>| the Windows taskbar. Is there such a utility for nVidia GeForce
>>| graphics cards? It should use little resources if possible. I already
>>| installed nTune but this is not what I am looking for. It can't
>>| display the temperature in the taskbar and it uses quite a lot of
>>| resources.
>>_____
>>
>>ATITool works with my nVidia 8600M GT in a Dell 1520 laptop. It displays
>>the GPU temperature in the taskbar.
>
> Since you have almost the same graphics card as I do:
> Can you please tell me what your GPU temperature is when your gaphics
> card is idle and what your GPU temperature is when your graphics card
> is being stressed?
>
> Mine idles around 55-59 C (131-138 F). Isn't that a bit high?
> On the other hand, running the 3D View from the ATITool has almost no
> effect on the temperature. Is there any other way to stress-test my
> graphics card?
>
> Peter

This old application is still good for stressing a graphics card:

http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/

Especially cranking up the multisampling and running it fullscreen.

Regards,

Dr.White.
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